Video version of this guide:
In this episode we cover all your basics and get you started with the right foundation. Below is a clean breakdown of what we covered, as well as some addition sections I added for the text guide.
Timestamps are in the description of the video.
- Bobka – https://twitch.tv/bobkawow
Rogue PvP Basics F.A.Q
Patreon Bonus: Sno’s keybinding and advanced macro setup guide
I took the time after this episode to re-do my own keybinds and optimize my macro setup to be more efficient and quicker for pvp. I also re-did my action bars to remove a need for a stealth bar (using stealth bar stance swapping can sometimes make ability usage slower if bar swap lags or it can misfire the wrong ability).
Here’s a video breaking down how I did it and how I’d recommend you do it if you want to fix up your own keybinds and macros:
Rogue PvP Macros
Macros can get VERY complicated and in-depth, but here is a list of the most common starter rogue pvp macros used by top rogues, as well as some slightly more intermediate macros to get you started.
You DO NOT need every single macro listed. Even top rogues may not use every variation of every macro – just grab the ones you actually feel would be useful/helpful for your own usage.
Note: The choice between using abilities on a focus target vs. unique keybinds for arena 1 2 3 is a personal preference. Technically, you can have a separate binding for each target such as blind arena target 1/2/3, but it also increases the amount of hotkeys you’ll need.
Rogue PvP Professions
Let’s cover the big 3 professions being used by most rogues. Jewelcrafting, engineering and blacksmithing.
PvP UI Mods & Setup
I’ve already done 2 full setup/UI mods guide – you can find them here:
- TBC PvP F.A.Q, UI & Setup (general PVP add-ons that everyone/most people use – such as Gladdy and Nameplate debuffs)
- Sno’s Rogue UI & Weakauras (a bit more rogue focused if you’re looking for rogue specific weakauras to track stuns and poisons for example)
If you’re looking for the warrior stance tracker that Bobka mentioned in the episode, I found it and modified it to be a bit cleaner here:
- Warrior stance tracker for nameplates – https://wago.io/7HSw97mgp
Rogue PvP Talent Specs
This is fairly straight forward, you only really have 2 options in pvp right now with only some minor variations that I’ll cover.
Rogue PvP Gear Bis Lists
Bis gearing is fairly straightforward, but below are some alternative gear swaps you can make depending on if you value/want the extra hit vs. more stamina and atk.
FYI you’ll need the following amounts if you’re aiming for PvP S1 BIS:
- 7375 arena points (that’s about 3 months at 1850+ in 2v2)
- 37644 honor points, 20 WSG marks, 40 AB marks (for trinket + belt + bracers)
Here are the arena/honor gear cheatsheets if you want a quick look at everything:
Alternative bis pickups
Honor gear & PvP pre-bis
There’s A LOT of choices you can make for pre-bis gear, so I’ll just cover some rough gearing paths. Below is a rough example of a pre-bis pvp set, but you don’t have to copy it exactly and you can put in more honor gear to push your resilience up if you prefer or more pve gear if you want to go glass cannon dps mode.
For the most part if you have the time to farm honor, then you can use honor pieces to fill up almost any gaps in your pvp bis set (especially now that Blizzard is looking at horde vs horde queues to reduce queue time).
Some extra tips for your pre-bis gearing:
Tip 1: 2 piece assassination set is great for filler
The assassination set works great for filler without needing to grind honor. The helmet in particular lets you use a meta gem and the 2 set bonus works well for opener damage.
Tip 2: Gloves should be high on your prio list with the bis honor pieces
If you’re not intending to pickup the Gladiator gloves fairly quickly, then you should look at grinding out the honor gloves fairly early on to get your deadly throw bonus interrupt (personally I’d go pvp trinket > belt > bracers > gloves for my own honor grinding, since the first 3 items are used in the bis set).
Happy PvPing, see you guys in Episode 2!